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	<title>Rational Logic &#187; Personal Finance</title>
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		<title>KWSP Missing Dividend Payout ?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 21:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shchoy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Scenario
I was looking at my Year 2008 KWSP report and the 1st thing I look at (I am sure that’s the first thing most ppl look at as well) is the total amount figure I have in my account.
The 2nd figure I look at is… how much amount in dividend interest I have receive this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><span style="color: #800000;">Scenario</span></strong></span><br />
I was looking at my Year 2008 KWSP report and the 1st thing I look at (I am sure that’s the first thing most ppl look at as well) is the total amount figure I have in my account.<br />
The 2nd figure I look at is… how much amount in dividend interest I have receive this year.</p>
<p>Now…. that’s 4.5% in year 2008…. Multiply by this… Add that……<br />
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Heh! The amount doesn’t add up!<br />
If the amount stated in the Report is higher than my simple 4.5% X Annual Total Amount<br />
then I am not complaining…. But it’s lower. Like 0.5% lower.</p>
<p>Of course, this is assuming since dividend is declared at the end of the year,<br />
interest dividend given is base on total amount for the whole year.<br />
<strong><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Solution</span></span></strong><br />
I decided to get to the bottom of this and email KWSP.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Enquiry.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-217" title="KWSP Enquiry" src="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Enquiry.png" alt="KWSP Enquiry" width="590" height="457" /></a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>It’s great that they have a website and enquiry page!</p>
<p>Ask them how the dividend payout is calculated….<br />
No answer. Not even from an automated answering machine.</p>
<p>So the next best thing I did is to post the question in Lowyat Forum.<br />
It’s probable the most popular forum in Malaysia.<br />
Somebody may have an idea how this whole Dividend Calculation work out.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Question-Lowyat.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-221" title="KWSP Question Lowyat" src="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Question-Lowyat.png" alt="KWSP Question Lowyat" width="590" height="348" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Dividend-Ask-Lowyat1.png" target="_blank"></a></p>
<p><a rel="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Dividend-Ask-Lowyat.png" href="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Dividend-Ask-Lowyat.png" target="_blank"></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Dividend-Ask-Lowyat-tumb.png"></a></p>
<p>As usual, got some weird, funny or meaningless reply…</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Weird-Reply.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-222" title="KWSP Weird Reply" src="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Weird-Reply.png" alt="KWSP Weird Reply" width="590" height="447" /></a></p>
<p>And then a someone reply this….</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Good-Reply.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-223" title="KWSP Good Reply" src="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Good-Reply.png" alt="KWSP Good Reply" width="590" height="189" /></a></p>
<p>Now, that does seem to make sense…<br />
The interest payout is calculated base on the amount contributed<br />
starting from the day it was contributed till the year-end.</p>
<p>It may sound complicated but it really isn’t.</p>
<p>To confirm all understanding on how this work,<br />
I suggest to compute this base on a simple example.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Suggestion.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-224" title="KWSP Suggestion" src="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Suggestion.png" alt="KWSP Suggestion" width="590" height="337" /></a></p>
<p>And he did…</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Calculation-Example.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-225" title="KWSP Calculation Example" src="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Calculation-Example.png" alt="KWSP Calculation Example" width="590" height="459" /></a></p>
<p>Now, taking this example I decided to try this method out on my actual reported figures.<br />
However, I realize there’s a “Tarikh” date column on the left. I assume this could be some sort of<br />
transaction date on when the amount is contributed.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Date.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-226" title="KWSP Date" src="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Date.png" alt="KWSP Date" width="250" height="328" /></a></p>
<p>This will make calculation a lil bit more difficult<br />
if the number of contributed days is base on transacted date and not by month-end.</p>
<p>Worst, there’s some months where the “transaction” date is really late.<br />
Example…September contribution only “transacted” on November….<br />
This could mean lost of dividend money due to late transaction!</p>
<p>Lucky thing, I don’t think it’s base on “transaction” date…..</p>
<p>I try calculating base on the assumption that contribution is made “spot-on&#8221; by end of every month.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Excel.png"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-227" title="KWSP Excel" src="http://www.shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/KWSP-Excel.png" alt="KWSP Excel" width="579" height="493" /></a></p>
<p>Result…… “almost” with just RM 2 off the mark…..</p>
<p>Although it isn’t the “exact” figure as the annual report, it’s close enough.<br />
Besides, a daily pro-rated calculation is the most logical way the dividend<br />
payout amount should be calculated.</p>
<p>Summary…<br />
Community forum is one of the best ways to gain insights and answers especially if it’s obvious<br />
&amp; &#8230;. our government service still doesn’t read emails.</p>
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		<title>Getting your CCRIS Report</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shchoy</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Personal Finance]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Bank Negara]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Scenario
It’s good to know your credit history.
Especially for some of you “defaulters”!!!….
I am sure a credit report will shed some light on your current situation.  </p>
<p>It‘s one of the main evaluation method for banks/financiers in deciding
whether to offer a loan (mortgage, credit cards, personal, etc…).
Yes, they peak into our credit report….</p>
<p>Good news is that [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Scenario</span></span></strong><br />
It’s good to know your credit history.<br />
Especially for some of you “defaulters”!!!….<br />
I am sure a credit report will shed some light on your current situation. <img src='http://www.shchoy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It‘s one of the main evaluation method for banks/financiers in deciding<br />
whether to offer a loan (mortgage, credit cards, personal, etc…).<br />
Yes, they peak into our credit report….</p>
<p>Good news is that we can obtain such a report fairly easy and convenient as well.<br />
It’s call the CCRISS report.</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Solution</strong></span></span><br />
It’s all done at Bank Negara.</p>
<p>Having no idea how to get there… I rely on the good old Google map for direction.<br />
Found out that KTM has a station call “Bank Negara”. And no doubt… that station is just<br />
right next to the destination named.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" rel="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Klang-Valley-Transit-Map.png" href="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Klang-Valley-Transit-Map.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-125" title="Klang Valley Transit Map" src="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Klang-Valley-Transit-Map.png" alt="Klang Valley Transit Map" width="343" height="550" /></a><br />
So I drove to Mid-Valley and took the KTM from there. 2 stops and I arrived.<br />
Of course, other folks may have other means of getting there…</p>
<p>The moment you step out of the station, you should see police officers on your right.<br />
That’s the road you should follow.<br />
You’re on a higher ground while SOGO, KWSP building, etc… is below.</p>
<p>Do not walk straight down the staircase… which I did…<br />
since I mistaken the KWSP logo on the building below as the Bank Negara logo.<br />
(Alright…how embarrassing).</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" rel="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Bank-Negara-Map-Expand.png" href="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Bank-Negara-Map-Expand.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-127" title="Bank Negara Map" src="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Bank-Negara-Map.png" alt="Bank Negara Map" width="590" height="376" /></a></p>
<p>Anyway, just turn right once you’re out and walk towards the police officers.<br />
They will stop you and ask questions, just tell them you’re here for your CRISS report and they will direct you how to get there.</p>
<p>Walk straight ahead… you should pass a “coffee shop” on your left. Just continue walking down the road.<br />
It’s quite a walk… because the building is all the way the other side.</p>
<p>You will notice lots of police! Even the counter person in some buildings is police officers.<br />
Shouldn’t be surprise really…. This is Bank Negara…</p>
<p>Once you reach the end of the road, you will notice 2 buildings (and more police).<br />
The building on your right is where you should head to.</p>
<p>Once inside, just go to the counter and ask how to get your CCRISS. They will point you<br />
to a KIOSK nearby. There’s 2 KIOSK from what I can see.</p>
<p>Line up for your turn…. Took me around 15-20 min before I sat down at the computer.<br />
All you need is your MyKard IC.<br />
Just slot your IC into the scanner and put your thumb for a scan.</p>
<p>I guess the time it takes to print out the report depend on how much Loan you took.<br />
An uncle in front of me waited like 5 min before his 3-page report is printed.<br />
I guess he’s got lots of lending going on there…. <img src='http://www.shchoy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
It took me just 1-2 min and my 2-page report is out.</p>
<p>This is how an example report looks like….</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" rel="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/CCRIS-Report-Expand.png" href="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/CCRIS-Report-Expand.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-128" title="CCRIS Report" src="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/CCRIS-Report.png" alt="CCRIS Report" width="590" height="332" /></a></p>
<p>I was told we can only print it once every 6 months. And sorry, no Internet print-out yet.</p>
<p>What’s great about the report is that it list down every credit loan you have in detail.<br />
The load credit amount, how much you still owe, your history payment (pass 1 year), which bank branch, etc..</p>
<p>There’s also a portion which states the pending and approved loan you apply for, when it was submitted and for how much.</p>
<p>So, if you happen to approach like…. 10 banks for 1 home mortgage!!!&#8230;<br />
And a loan officer asked if you have approach other banks…. Say 10… because they will know. <img src='http://www.shchoy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Property Purchase – Rhythm Avenue USJ19</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shchoy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Scenario
Invest in a residential property to gain positive rental income and capital appreciation… hopefully.
First step … picking the right property</p>
<p>Solution
Rhythm Avenue at USJ 19 is the first choice I made.
Kind of funny since it is this same property that went abandon about 7 years ago which got me into trouble.
but…Here’s why I made the decision.</p>
<p>The [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Scenario</strong></span></span><br />
Invest in a residential property to gain positive rental income and capital appreciation… hopefully.<br />
First step … picking the right property</p>
<p><span style="color: #800000;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Solution</strong></span></span><br />
Rhythm Avenue at USJ 19 is the first choice I made.<br />
Kind of funny since it is this same property that went abandon about 7 years ago which got me into trouble.<br />
but…Here’s why I made the decision.</p>
<p>The revival was done up pretty well just like most newly completed condo… by Malaysian standard.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-77" title="Rhythm Avenue Pool" src="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Rhythm-Avenue-Pool2.jpg" alt="Rhythm Avenue Pool" width="590" height="361" /></p>
<p>The property is sitting on prime commercial land at USJ 19.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" rel="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Rhythm-Avenue-Map.jpg" href="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Rhythm-Avenue-Map.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-78" title="Rhythm Avenue Map" src="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Rhythm-Avenue-Map3.jpg" alt="Rhythm Avenue Map" width="590" height="237" /></a></p>
<p>It would be better if it’s on residential land since that would save me on bills, fees and others.<br />
But it does have it’s benefits if they have key tenants taking up the retail lots.<br />
Which they have!</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Rhythm-Avenue-Digital-Mall1.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-112" title="Rhythm Avenue Digital Mall" src="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Rhythm-Avenue-Digital-Mall1.jpg" alt="Rhythm Avenue Digital Mall" width="590" height="361" /></a></p>
<p>Carrefour &amp; Digital Mall which of course consist of many mini-tenants.</p>
<p>I believe this the only condo in USJ having such key anchor tenants right below it.<br />
It’s also just minutes away from Taipan and near the LDP &amp; Utara-Selatan highway.</p>
<p>Of course… being in a prime location and having good anchor tenants would mean nothing<br />
if the “price is not right”.</p>
<p>So, is the “Price Right”? Does it bring in positive cash-flow?<br />
Here’s a basic calculation base on my purchase</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-80" title="USJ Rhythm Avenue Price" src="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/USJ-Rhythm-Avenue-Price.png" alt="USJ Rhythm Avenue Price" width="311" height="351" /></p>
<p>Base on a similar unit I rented out for RM 850 per month.<br />
I consider it partial furnish.<br />
Didn’t do much…. just the grills, lights &amp; fans.<br />
Furnish with fridge, wash-machine, bed-room set, sofa &amp; portable kitchen cabinet.</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-86" title="USJ Rhythm Avenue Gross Income" src="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/USJ-Rhythm-Avenue-Gross-Income.png" alt="USJ Rhythm Avenue Gross Income" width="231" height="191" /></p>
<p>Principle paid is average out within 5 years loan period</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-87" title="USJ Rhythm Avenue Net Income" src="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/USJ-Rhythm-Avenue-Net-Income.png" alt="USJ Rhythm Avenue Net Income" width="231" height="191" /></p>
<p>That’s RM 3840 per year from an initial investment of</p>
<p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-88" title="USJ Rhythm Avenue ROI" src="http://shchoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/USJ-Rhythm-Avenue-ROI.png" alt="USJ Rhythm Avenue ROI" width="231" height="535" /></p>
<p>For the lawyer’s fee, I receive a 50% discount for Stamping (Thx to budget 2009)</p>
<p>So, that’s a ROI of 16.3% per year.<br />
I didn’t even calculate property appreciation.</p>
<p>Anyway… the bottom-line is, the price definitely is right base on the rental it can bring in.<br />
It’s pretty obvious actually… a decent condo in USJ at RM 145k is a steal.</p>
<p>The disadvantage is that it’s pretty hard to get a decent loan from the banks.<br />
Decent meaning…  good rates, term period &amp; margin of finance<br />
Probable due to it’s abandon history, hence you must shop around.</p>
<p>Oh yah… did I mention it’s Freehold.</p>
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		<title>Booking Fee for a Tenancy Agreement</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>shchoy</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>You see&#8230; this is the 1st time I am actually getting a tenant.</p>
<p>After reading a couple of “Get rich &#38; become millionaire real-estate” books, which constantly warn about the horrors of getting the wrong tenant…it kinda freak me out.  Hence, I became really careful on picking the right tenant, which ended up my property being [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see&#8230; this is the 1st time I am actually getting a tenant.</p>
<p>After reading a couple of “Get rich &amp; become millionaire real-estate” books, which constantly warn about the horrors of getting the wrong tenant…it kinda freak me out.  Hence, I became really careful on picking the right tenant, which ended up my property being empty for a good 6-7 months….<br />
It may have been the rental rate… I don’t know.</p>
<p>I try to follow their “teachings &amp; theories” pretty diligently. Some are pretty interesting.</p>
<p>An example, is requesting for a “standing-instruction” from potential tenants in monthly rental income.  IMO…. It doesn’t work. Well, at least for me.<br />
The dealings end up feeling “picky” and demanding.  This is one example of good in theory bad in practice. Sure… biz is biz…better be safe than sorry… but I will skip this step.</p>
<p>Another theory is giving a rent discount, say RM 50, if rental is paid early…<br />
I get the idea of using incentive to ensure tenants pay. But IMO it’s added process and subjected to create confusion. I say the simpler the better.</p>
<p>Anyway… good news is I manage to get a good tenant (so far).<br />
But… made a major mistake with a rather unscrupulous Agent and here’s what went wrong.</p>
<p><span style="color: #993300;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Scenario</span></strong></span><br />
Property dormant for 6-7 months even though engaged several agents.<br />
Desperation sets in. Mom finally found Agent whom found tenant who’s interested.</p>
<p>Significant rental price reduction due to desperation &amp; realization that my “fully furnish” property ain’t exactly “fully” after all, compare to the market. It’s more like “partial furnish”.</p>
<p>I requested for a “meet-up” before any offer is accepted.<br />
Met up with Tenant &amp; Agent…. Good vibe with the Tenant.</p>
<p>Here’s where the mistake is made.<br />
Agent requested for a booking fee from Tenant.  About 90% of monthly rental…<br />
Tenant paid… we both sign “booking” papers. The tenant requested to move in asap like next 2 days,<br />
which is fine by me.</p>
<p>The next day, Tenant “bank in” the 2 month deposit + ½ month utilities to me<br />
and 10% of the remaining monthly rental to the Agent to cover the agent fees.<br />
Agent gave keys to Tenant. The End.</p>
<p>Find the problem with this process?<br />
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<p>Problem -&gt; there’s NO Tenancy Agreement sign at all and yet the Agent is fully paid and Tenant having keys to the house.</p>
<p>Here’s what happened.</p>
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<p>It didn’t help that the Tenant just handed me the money with no document sign for Tenant’s own protection and mine. Besides….. the Tenant shouldn’t be passing the 10% remaining amount to settle the agent fees.</p>
<p>Although it’s the job of the Agent to prepare and ensure a proper &amp; fair Tenancy Agreement is in place and sign before handing out any money or keys….. it wasn’t done.</p>
<p>There’s now no incentive for the Agent to “finish up the agreement” since she’s gotten the money.<br />
Basically she could just walk away.</p>
<p>When I confronted the agent on the process…. she has the guts to tell me it’s a normal process<br />
and she’s been doing this for the past 13 years as an “experience” agent.<br />
I just told her…. “You should change your process”.</p>
<p>Later I found out she wasn’t even from the “well-known” real-estate agency she claims to be in.<br />
She quit 3 months back but was still using the name card and “booking” papers with the company letter head. I was really tempted to report her….. but &#8230;.</p>
<p><span style="color: #993300;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Solution</span></strong></span><br />
Just constantly pressuring the agent to get the Tenancy Agreement ready &amp; stamped.<br />
I now do more “running around” to minimize delay since I want the Tenancy Agreement ready, stamp and sign asap.</p>
<p>Remember…  The agent has no incentive any longer for serving me.<br />
(besides reputation, long-term client prospect, etc… which I believe she didn’t care)<br />
She got the money.</p>
<p>Lucky thing the Tenant is good and the Agent is “manageable” hence no serious damage was done but a possibility nevertheless.</p>
<p>I definitely no longer want to the same mistake again!</p>
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<span style="color: #993300;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong><br />
Key Learning</strong></span></span><br />
-    There’s no need to sign “booking&#8221; papers for tenancy deals. This isn’t buying a property dealing. If Landlord is comfortable with the Tenant and vice versa… all money and keys exchanges can be done once Tenancy agreement is ready to be signed.  No need the extra “booking” step.</p>
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